Question:
I am An Indian dentist relocating to saudiarabia with few questions?
smile c
2007-08-06 05:34:20 UTC
hi , i am planning to move to Riyadh with my wife and 2 year old son and a 3 month Baby. i am indian and am from southindia. i would like to know about the following
1) Schools in Riyadh specially indian schools. whether arabic is compulsolry
2) visas for my parents
3) housing especially from an indian perspective. budget ?
4) Working Culture,use of laptop
5) indian tv channels
6) is there any discrimination against non muslim indians as its the first time we are leaving india .
i would be happy and appreciate if you could give us these answers
Eight answers:
2007-08-06 08:53:14 UTC
1. there is an international indian school in riyadh, also there is a variety of international schools...



2. have no idea.. u can ask the embassy



3. well .. u will find many with different budgets..its kinda of less expensive than UAE.. if u have some info about it ...but from self experience...there is a district in riyadh called" hayy al sulaimanyia " which has many non saudies living there.. i think apartments there will be with reasonable budget.. u will find indian restaurant ...indian grocery..etc..there too



4.depends on the place ur goin to work in ...laptops are used every where...and for internet u can choose from different ISPs ...wireless internet is free in most of the cafe...internet cafes are every where.



5. sattelite brings u channels from all over the world.



6. no discrimination against non muslims.. but as a foriegner.. u might face some difficulties as its ur first time to visit "arab "country..not because ur non muslim...but cuz arab countries have slightly different life style.. as my non saudi friend complained ..hope that will help



WELCOME TO SAUDI ARABIA
Mintee
2007-08-07 05:08:59 UTC
I am not from Riyadh, so I cant inform you of the schools, but im most certain there is probably a very good school there for your nationals.. Your employer will be your sponsor into the country, they should be the ones who help you get visiting visas for your parents.. Shouldnt be a problem really. I have no idea as to houseing from an indian perspective.. It all depends on the salary you were promiced and if there is housing included.. The housing can dramatically differ from sub par all the way to luxury.. If you are in a compound, the better cause you will be able to make more friends especially for your family and have more social activities.. Usually housing compounds have shuddle busses that run women into town to the major shopping malls and places..

working culture.. I dont understand what you are asking about that.. as for dentistry.. we could all use more better dentists.. you can use your laptop just fine.. We all have these here.. There are tons of Indian TV channels.. Star TV shows many indian language channels.. Also there is cable TV.. Satelite TV and you can find hundreds of Indian TV channels. .. There shouldnt be much of a discrimination against you as a different faith as long as you dont go about trying to convert anyone.. But be prepared to be engaged in many conversations of locals trying to convert you.. Just be open minded and take in politely everything they say.. At least you might be enlightened to some good Islamic moral advice. and who of any faith cant do with more good moral advice?.. I think you will be just fine... goodluck!
mahawi61
2007-08-06 13:14:52 UTC
1)There is an Indian school in Riyadh-see link.

2)Possible, check with the Embassy for info.

3) Most sponsors have their own compounds if not, the price varies from sky high to affordable.

4)Laptops are used most of the time in various working and non-working environments.

5)Through satellite TV and it is accessible and available to by subscription.

6)No discrimination. Non Muslim workers are everywhere, but the local culture is very tough. Again, check with the Embassy for booklets & guides.
2007-08-06 13:01:05 UTC
I havent been to S.A. but spent time elsewhere.I can give you approx ans.Arabic is comp. after std 5 only.Parents may get 3 mths visit visa extended by 3 mths if ur family is with you only. Variety of housing avbl according to ur budget. What u mean by work culture and use of ltop?All channels avbl thru sattelite. No discrimination where work and social life is concerned. Go you'll be happy.
Sana
2007-08-06 20:43:02 UTC
HI, sir

well m 16yrs girl frm saudi m also a south indian(kerala)

well schools r gud in riyadh,i am in jeddah but i have been in riyadh the best indian school is (international indian school riyadh) aka indian embessy school.....i also study in da same branch school in jeddah.it is very famous school.

pls wist da site if u wanna knw abt da school.



www.international indian school riyadh.com



well Arabic is not important one. bigging of 6th grade there will be a choice 4 ARABIC,MALAYALAM,TAMIL,URDU....



HINDI is da main subject but there wil b a choice wen ur child wil be in 9th grade wid FRENCH,ARABIC,MALAYALAM,URDU,HINDI.



u pls dnt worry abt any thing u will get every thing here, indian tv channels,indian food,cloth,ppl,everything.....

saudi arabia is all in one......and remember dat it is a developed country n rich country.....

use of lap top is common here,well m using lop top right now....

u may get flat or family villas it is up to ur job coz many company they provide free family villas n also flats.

if u r staying in d flat u really need alot of money 4 rent,water,electricity etc...



indians r treated very well here....u can c indians all around saudi arabia specially south indians...



visia 4 ur parents is may be too hard u can take dem 4 visiting 1st n after a peroid u can take them in saudi.....



a group of ppl work 2 gether here.....like i mean dat ppl all around d world they seem to be in one working place.....



another thing is dat we must know some english n hindi.....

some saudis cant follow english so dat is also a problum......

i knw many things abt saudi cuz i born here n so n so.....

but one more thing saudi is bit boring some time......if u r wid ur family its ok.....

another gud thing about saudi is dat if any crime or steelings...etc.(.i mean if u do any thing against da saudi rule)if taken place they will cut ur head.....in frond of da public.this common here u dnt worry abt it.....i have seen cutting of head here in jeddah in one of da mosque.....

so u r most well come to

DA KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA.

thank u sir,4 reading my long list.....

pls wisit jeddah if u r gonna come to makkha,

sorry only muslims r allowed in makkha n madhina....

r u a muslim?if u r then its ok.....



wishing u gud luk,,,,,,

take care......
2007-08-11 15:14:56 UTC
you could let your kids go to an international school.

also if u r not muslem people close down there shops to pray and u cant go in them
Devastated
2007-08-06 22:07:59 UTC
Congratulations and welcome to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Since you'll be a "darkie" expat in KSA, please be prepared for the following treatments:



Why Is There So Much Hate Inside Us?

Abdullah Al-Mutairi • Al-Watan



In the shop next to my house, there is a home delivery service which is run by an Indian. He is a good man, hardworking and devoted to his job. I talk to him whenever he delivers something to my house and he talks to me about the time he spent working in Abu Dhabi and of his dream to live in London.



Last week I asked him to deliver a newspaper to my house. When he delivered it to me, he asked me whether I wrote in it. I told him that I did and he asked me to write about why young Saudis hate foreign workers, particularly Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. He asked, “Why do they throw rocks at us when they see us in the street?” He said that in India they were taught to love others because that is the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). I was moved by his words and promised him that I would write on the subject.



I took his question to my students and started a discussion in class. The students agreed that they had harassed foreigners, particularly South Asians, in the street. One said that seeing a worker in the street was a perfect chance for them to beat him up and then run away. Some admitted searching for foreign workers to beat up, throw eggs at and generally abuse. I asked my students why they behaved in this way, what was the reason. Some said it was just fun, nothing more or less. Some said it was because those people were weak and unable to fight back. Some said that their favorite pastime was to catch cats, kill them and skin them. I was shocked and disturbed by all this violence and wondered what was causing it.



The classroom discussion ended but my questions would not go away. Is this violence only committed by children or can we see it at other levels in other forms? How do older people deal with foreign workers? Do the workers feel that we respect them? Sadly, the rude and sarcastic way we often refer to them sprang to my mind. Can such relationships be called humane? Are they based on equality? Are they in keeping with the tenets of Islam?



Do we adult Saudis who sponsor and employ foreigners fulfill the conditions of their contracts — which both we and they have signed? How many housemaids never get a day off?



I remember a worker in the school where I work who was on the job every day and who had not been paid for six months. I remember another unpaid worker who asked humbly and politely for his dues and received nothing but curses and insults. It seems to me that our children’s violent behavior has its origins and roots in the behavior and attitudes of adults. My Indian friend’s question should have thus been directed toward all ages and not just at the young.



Are these things related to education? Can we blame this shameful behavior on a lack of education? The answer came all too quickly to my head. I remembered one of my colleagues, a teacher who belongs to a certain tribe. He believes that a student lacking a tribal name is a man with no roots and hence of no importance. Then I remembered a preacher who visited the school after 9/11 and warned the students against dealing with non-Muslims. I also remember a sheikh in a mosque who would not allow a foreigner to pray next to him — simply because the man was not Saudi.



It is not difficult to come up with examples of our relations with people in our country who belong to different religions and cultures. And I will not discuss our own relations with other Saudis. Many of us will not allow our daughters to marry someone just because he is from a certain place or because, for some reason, we look down on him. Behind all these examples are beliefs and thoughts toward “others” which glorify us and our egos and degrade them and theirs. Such a situation is fertile ground for the idea of hate and infertile ground for the idea of love.



Those brought up to love people will not throw rocks at them and curse them. Those brought up to love people will not degrade those who are different from them? Where is love in our lives? Has it given way to hate? What answer can I give my Indian friend? Is he going to understand that it will take a long time to change this culture of hate? I do not think that it will be easy since so many of us do not want to and so many believe they are unique and the best in the world. I remember when I was in England last summer, arriving at the front door of the house where I was staying. I saw a little girl standing outside the house next to mine. I wondered if she would curse me or throw stones at me or whether she would just look away in disgust. Instead, she carried on watering the flowers in the small garden; then she looked up and waved at me, with a big smile on her face. Could that have happened here?
2007-08-10 10:10:44 UTC
hello, me to having same intrest i am adentist from punjab. me and my wife are moving to saudi with my son .please contact me at dentist786@yahoo.com have you been selected for moh job when are you moving


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